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prb238

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Re: Controlling Robot From Computer or Home Automation Controller
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2013, 06:27:28 PM »
This afternoon I ran new wires out to the charging base, disconnected the stock wires from the charging plates and connected my new wires to the plates. I connected the new LiFePo4 charger, let the robot go into the base and it worked great. The robot is now charging with the new battery in the base.

I am curious to see when the robot leaves the base - I am guessing when the charge level is 29v or above?

This new battery can only charge with a max of 1.2amps so the battery charge time is longer than the stock battery.  Once I test all of the components and everything works I will likely get a higher amp/hr battery and a charger that can charge at a faster rate.

One thing to note is that the current LiFePO4 battery is 4.5amp/hrs and it is basically the same size as the stock lithium battery which is 6.9amp/hrs. So I will likely be modifying the inside of the robot slightly to accommodate a slightly bigger battery pack.

Paul

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Re: Controlling Robot From Computer or Home Automation Controller
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2013, 09:45:35 PM »
The robot has been working fine all weekend.

I let the robot work until it was ready to charge on Saturday and then I hooked up the RF receivers and the camera on the robot and left it all on overnight in my garage - the goal here was to run the battery all the way down so that the battery protection circuit would kick in and protect the battery and not let the cells go below a safe voltage. I checked the battery in the morning and none of the devices were receiving any power in the robot - that was good.

I then put the robot back in the base and held my breath as I turned it on .......... And it started right up normally - the battery voltage was much lower than normal for this battery, but it charged fine and kept on going.

So - everything appears to work great with the new battery. Next step is to reconnect everything and test the camera and make sure the receiver is working and that I can control the robot from my phone and iPad.

Is anyone interested in trying this? If so I'll take some time and put together a parts list and a manual.

Paul
« Last Edit: August 21, 2013, 10:20:41 PM by prb238 »

moti

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Re: Controlling Robot From Computer or Home Automation Controller
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2013, 11:24:24 AM »
Paul has taken this in a different direction than I did : - )

I think everyone using this forum would agree that Zuchetti should have made this platform more open - as it would be nice to tweak both the hardware software. While I used to be a tinkerer, I seem to have much less energy to apply in that direction now. Also, since the Lawnbott is expensive, technological, and proprietary, I want to make sure I don't get into any warranty issues if something does need to be replaced (maybe RobotLady could weigh in on what does and does not void any warranty). I would love to be able to control the robot remotely with a PC or more powerful remote, and I'd really like to get sensor data back... maybe after the warranty has run out. For now I limit my hacking to the more basic components, and to external methods to influence the robot.

In that regard, and as a follow-up to my initial post:

Switched wire loops:
I have implemented two wire loops, and thy are connected through a DPDT toggle switch that I flip daily or whenever one loop needs more attention. My property is 1 acre with hills - but given the house, driveway, and mulched beds, the robot mows about half of that. I initially planned (and tried some of) a single loop with 4 zones - but the 2 loop system offers more advantages (which I could outline in a separate topic).  As I first mentioned, I plan to control the switching of the loops with an Insteon relay switch, which I will locate in a weatherproof box at the point where I plug in the robot's charger.

Location tracking:
The robot DOES get stuck, and I don't always check to see if it has returned at the end of the day - so this is where technology could help. There are a new group of tiny stick-on devices (Button TrackR, Tile, Twine) on KickStarter that look promising. Button TrackR is the size of a quarter, uses a coin-cell battery, and uses bluetooth to communicate with an iphone app. Some of the gadgets use wifi instead of bluetooth. I'm hoping to leverage one of these devices.

Rain sensing:
I still don't have any great solution for rain. The on-board rain sensor works, but the options are limited. In a deluge, the robot still goes out, and then comes back. I'd like to keep it from going out at all in the rain, and even keep it from going out when the grass is still wet, since all the wet grass clippings make more of a mess - they get compacted and the robot needs to be cleaned more often and more thoroughly. Even if I could come up with some sensor that measures rain, grass moisture, etc and gives a yes/no if it's ok to mow, I still could not limit the robot from going out without wiring into it with some additional receiver. It might be ok to toggle power on the charger/transmitter - even if the robot was still powered on and in the charger - since the voltage drop would not be significant over the one or two days that the robot was held back. I could test the idea of switching to "no loop". More work is needed!

Moti

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Re: Controlling Robot From Computer or Home Automation Controller
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2013, 01:34:02 PM »
Moti,

You could add a very small circular loop that the robot could follow on it's way out and back when it rains.  Just change the type of switch you are now using to allow for the new loop.

To tell when my Jr. gets back into his charger I attached a wire with a flag, made out of silver metal duct tape, to the top edge of his charger house.  When Jr. enters he hits the wire causing the wire go horizontal and back vertical when he exits.  All I have to do is look out the window and check the flag.  A quick check each day confirms that everything is okay.

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