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Robotic Lawnmowers => Lawnbott => Topic started by: whitey on October 17, 2012, 02:09:03 PM

Title: house too small
Post by: whitey on October 17, 2012, 02:09:03 PM
 i have a professional that has been remodeled with bigger wheels. now it fights to get back in his house due to the increased height . any ideas out there other than chopping & channelling the bot? :'(
Title: Re: house too small
Post by: toolbelt on October 17, 2012, 08:46:16 PM
Doesn't the top of the house attach to the bottom?  Why not just put some blocks (rubber)  at the connection points to separate the two, thus allowing the bot to enter.  Just make sure the recharge nuts still make a good connection.
Title: Re: house too small
Post by: whitey on October 18, 2012, 06:11:26 PM
 i would have to drill new holes in back & also would need to keep the house rainproof. i was hoping there were smaller dome nuts :)
Title: Re: house too small
Post by: RobotLady on October 19, 2012, 04:44:42 PM
Hi, if you are talking about the standard Lawnbott upgrade, there is no increase in height and the problem has to be caused by something else.

1) Are you sure you installed the cover correctly?  Make sure the white round grommet on the underside of the cover is slid into the metal slot on the robot.

2) The wire leading up to the opening of the garage must be straight.

3) Send a photo of the problem to us if you can't figure it out so we can analyze it further.

If the larger wheels were due to an unofficial modification then you should search the forum for "Height Mod" because another forum member successfully modified his robot and base so his grass would be mowed higher.

Hope this helps!

RobotLady
Title: Re: house too small
Post by: whitey on October 20, 2012, 12:12:06 PM
 if i measured correctly the new wheels are about 1/2 " larger in dia. wire is straight & teflon whatever is in right place. ps: there aint no varmints in the house to increase the height of the robot. can dome nuts be shaved down? 8)
Title: Re: house too small
Post by: RobotLady on October 23, 2012, 10:22:08 AM
I am baffled because we have never had this problem with any of the upgrades we've done so far (and we've done lots).  Can you send a photo to info@paradiserobotics.com?  Put the robot in the base with the nuts right up to the recharging plates.

Also please send the exact diameter of the wheels so we can compare to one we have in stock.
Title: Re: house too small
Post by: whitey on October 23, 2012, 04:31:53 PM
here are the stats for house too small: opening to house: 11 "  .. height to top of domenuts on level ground: 10 7/8"... original wheels with spikes: 8 1/2"...  plates compressed to max, 10 7/8. nothing in house floor to get in way. by the way, that dumb " guard" is made so that grass accumulates in it fast.  the outer ring should be reversed so grass dont get caught in it.  but what do i know, i didnt go to college, lol
Title: Re: house too small
Post by: toolbelt on October 25, 2012, 07:16:59 PM
If you have a grinder the nuts can be cut down as much as you want.
My bot (Junior) doesn't go all the way into the charger unit.  It stops when the nuts hits the plates.  The back of the bot gets rained on all the time.  In fact the charger sits directly below our garage roof which does not have a rain gutter on it.  The rain comes of the roof and hits the charger/bot each rain.  He's been through 6 years of rain and still keeps on ticking.  You could build a dog house and use it instead of the charger housing.  All you need is the wire terminal and the two charger plates.  On the 'dog house' you could extend the roof out over the doorway so rain would never hit the bot.

Before doing all of that I would take the charger housing apart and put it back together, you may have missed a step when you assembled it (unless it came that way)....

toolbelt
Title: Re: house too small
Post by: whitey on October 27, 2012, 04:11:11 PM
its only a matter of an 1/8 or a skinch more.  i think ill go wit grindin down the nuts; thanx :(
Title: Re: house too small
Post by: toolbelt on October 27, 2012, 05:19:34 PM
As far as the guard goes most of us have removed the stupid thing but the decision is up to you.  With it on the underside fills up with grass such that the blade can't even clip off the tip of the grass.  Like I've said before if the engineers who are designing these bots would just sit down and scan this forum for ideas they would have a machine that couldn't be beat.  After the Chinese or Japanese beat them maybe then they will wake up, but don't hold your breath......
Title: Re: house too small
Post by: RobotLady on October 31, 2012, 10:52:13 PM
I understand the blade guard is a pain and I couldn't agree more.  However, the government required it because they are concerned about someone's toe getting injured if the robot runs over it.  All lawnmowers have a body that goes closely around the blade.  That's where the idea came from.  Great concept, but I agree the implementation could be better.

We've found it much easier to mow when the grass is dry.  Then the blade guard does not get clogged up.  The dry grass just falls right out.

A plus side of having the blade guard is the blade won't get caught in or damage the metal plate on the bottom.

Hope this helps!

Robotlady
Title: Re: house too small
Post by: moti on November 01, 2012, 11:38:36 PM
I don't mind using the blade guard, although I do agree with RobotLady that the guard clogs up when the grass is wet. Unfortunately, there's no moisture sensor to tell the robot not to go out when the grass is wet - only when it's actually raining. We're in PA and most of the time I find the grass is wet and the guard gets packed. This just means more frequent cleanings.

... and the biggest problem I have with the blade guard is removing it for cleaning, as I have yet to find a perfectly-sized key to fit the A2-70 bolts that secure it. Also, I recently had my blade motor replaced under warranty. The original motor was held in place by those four bolts that go through the retaining ring and the guard, but also by 2 additional short bolts. The new motor did not allow me to use the 2 short bolts, since it had no threaded holes to receive these. Actually, the holes are there, but they are filled by longer case bolts that take up all the space. So with the new motor, removing the four bolts will completely free the motor. Thus, if you turn the robot on its back, with the blade face up, and then remove the blade and the four guard bolts, the motor will fall free. This is more of an annoyance.
Title: Re: house too small
Post by: toolbelt on November 02, 2012, 10:53:14 AM
"However, the government required it...."  And there in lies most of our problems, the darn government telling us what to do.  Didn't we learn our lesson from watching Russia go down the tube because of the telling them the people what to do???  Take the darn thing off and sling it as far away as you can if you don't want it.  If someone is stupid enough to either let their kids get cut or they themselves then you are going to get sued no matter what.  We really need to get rid of the government controlling our lives!!!!!!!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrr.
Title: Re: house too small
Post by: whitey on November 02, 2012, 06:46:49 PM
 i have no problem with the government; its the incompetence within it. similar to the "safety people" on the job; they went to school for a few weeks & know everything about how i should be safe & they wear pretty white hard hats & orange vests so people dont run into them.  whats scary is they can get you fired for reasons unknown to them. ps: if people are stupid enough to put their hand under a running lawnmower maybe they should become an ambrogio engineer or flip hamburgers at mickey dees.  :D ;D